Go Vego!

A Retort to the Omnivorous arguments I have faced as a Vegetarian

Submitted 4/09/2007 By nicolesarkis Views 7633 Comments 5 Updated 2/09/2008


Photographer : Nicole Sarkis

Flesh eaters often like to challenge the choice I have made in being vegetarian. Generally, due to laziness and a desire not to get into a heated argument at an inopportune moment, I say ‘Yep, I guess you’re right’.

What follows are the answers I have often thought and rarely spoken when confronted by the meat loving omnivores of our species.

Let us begin with the most popular.

“It is natural to eat meat.”

Very little of our capitalist culture is ‘natural’, although recent marketing trends may indicate otherwise, most of what we eat, use, and believe we need to survive is processed, packaged and designed by human hand.

The animals occupying our butchers and frozen food sections, and being thrown into car boots overseas have been reared for a specific purpose, and serve no other ecological or cultural purpose than, to provide meat, for human consumption. There is nothing natural about their industrially timed conception, cage confined existence, and truncated life by guillotine, knife, axe or shot gun, again all tools engineered by humans.

Sure homo habilis and homo rudolfensis clobbered other animals and ate their insides, however whilst there may have been a need for them to eat meat, there is no need for humans to eat it now.

But... “What if there was no other food anywhere, and you were starving, in the desert even! Would you eat meat?”

Short answer: Yes.

I am opposed to the industrialised way meat is obtained by our society, on principle if I needed to kill and/or eat another animal to survive, I would. Further, if an animal died naturally, I would have no ethical problem eating it, the same goes for unfertilised eggs routinely laid by a chicken.

Milk from a cow is designed for her infant, in our society calves are most likely to become veal. Supermarket chicken eggs are generally produced by chickens that would have more space if they lived in a shoe box, and the same amount of natural light. In Australia, the RSPCA alone offers certified free range eggs. If a company produces battery/cage eggs it’s probably best to trust that they are incapable of producing free range.

But… “Meat is good for you, you can’t be healthy without meat.”


Really? Don’t see many obese vegetarians do you?

However, for those of you who idolise the ‘expert opinion’, a dietician friend tells me vegetarians live longer than omnivores. Look it up if you please.

“If you’re a vegetarian, why do you eat things like soy sausages, and soy chicken nuggets that taste and look and feel like meat… [and are widely available from freezer and cold food sections of supermarkets]”

Genius… because “soy sausages (and nuggets)” are NOT MEAT

They never were, nor will they ever be a living animal.

“What about plants…”

Valid argument.

I assume that plants can feel, or at least would prefer to continue living than enter the melange that is my salad. However, unfortunately, I see no valid alternative to eating them. In which case, I make every effort to value my food, and to waste as little as possible.

And finally for the sympathisers…

“I would be vegetarian but it’s too hard.”

Life’s hard baby – if you want to look at it that way.

Firstly, if you’re happy to continue living knowing that you are personally responsible for killing a good couple of thousand chickens, pigs, cows, sheep, fish and their babies every year that you are not vegetarian, then go for it.

Being vegetarian means cheaper meals at restaurants, kissing food poisoning and massive bouts of indigestion goodbye, and feeling lighter, healthier, and calmer. You might also feel a little more at ease because you will be making a conscious effort to screw the earth that little bit less.

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Tegan03 04-Nov-2008

Just wondering Herodotus, why do you consider knee reconstruction for a dog "pampering" ? It's not like giving them caviar or a bubble bath.

Humans who need knee reconstructions describe the ailment as very painful, it pretty much makes sense that a knee reconstruction for a dog would be medicinal - allowing them to walk and be free from pain - rather than pampering. The only reason it costs $4000 is because there's no such thing as medicare for dogs.

Your comment makes it sound as though you don't consider a dog's life or pain worth the $4000. I agree it's a steep bill, but if you have the money, and you love your dog and respect it's life, you SHOULD pay it.

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Herodotus 07-May-2008


Dear Nicole

I wish to draw attention to your supposition that all animals are raised in 'caged confinement', Living and Growing up on a farm, this concept of total creulty is absurd particulary as everyday I see animals that are well fed and looked after. The devotion my grandfather has for the animals in his charge is nothing short of affection.

If family farms, recieved more support then there would not be the need to have the battery farms.

Another point you raised
-'Sure homo habilis and homo rudolfensis clobbered other animals and ate their insides, however whilst there may have been a need for them to eat meat, there is no need for humans to eat meat now.'

Homo Sapiens have for the past several thousand years have eaten meat, the concept of removing meat from the meal, in my opinion had stemmed from the rise of an urbanised cultue, who have gradually become so removed from the pastoral/agricultual part of the world, that a real disconnectment has occured. The irony in this, is that cities have only become possible as the Homo Sapien species transisted from the hunter gatherer lifestyle to agriculture.

To this day in the majority of the world survives on agriculture, a goat can feed a family, with the milk and meat that can be taken from the animal.

Whilst it is ok for the developed world to critiscise them in the practices that have served them well for centuries.

Concidering the amount of money that is wasted by the developed world, on things like the pampering of pets. (The ABC had a program the other evening, where someone had paid over 4000 dollars on having a knee reconstruction for a dog, It also noted that the statistics indicate that millions of dollars are spent by Australians each year on their pets.)

I hope that my comments are able to provide another side to the debate.

Yours Sincerly

Herodotus

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BelindaE 22-Mar-2008

Oh thank you! I get faced with these ignorant types a good three times a week. I wish it were as easy to shove a 1000 word essay explaining why I don't eat meat in the face of everyone who questioned it, but most of the time I can predict the debate that will follow so I just smile and nod. I get a lot of the "I'd go vegetarian, but I'm such a carnivore!" or "So, what do you eat?" I find it a bit funny sometimes how stupid and ignorant people can be that they really can't figure out why I'm a vegetarian.
A big relief to see that someone is on the exact same thought trail as me.

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Dylan 13-Sep-2007

I admire those who don't eat meat. While I can't go as far as to become a vego, I have considerably cut down my meat consumption over recent years.

To say that eating meat is not natural is taking your argument too far. Humans are animals, animals eat other animals. Although I do agree that the way meat gets to us is unnatural. Perhaps a tour of an abattoir should be compulsory for meat eaters? Then people could have more understanding of the impact of their food choices.



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Shelleyw 04-Sep-2007

Some great points nicole - have a listen to this story from Triple J's Hack about the ethics of eating meat. http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hack/notes/s2016772.htm

Shelley

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